For the past seven or eight years, I have been a voice for conservatives, in particular Republicans. In the past month, I have witnessed something never before seen in my life: A STOLEN ELECTION!

I never realized how deep the “swamp” was. Those are the career politicians and never Trumpers, both Republican and Democrat. There has been censorship by big tech (Twitter, Facebook and Google) and media censorship of factual evidence of the massive findings of fraud in this election.

President Donald Trump ALWAYS put America first. He put pride in the Stars and Stripes again.

Now you are telling me the American people gave a confused old man with dementia whose running mate is a racist and communist more votes than ANY presidential candidate in history. I’m not buying it.

I want to know where the people that Trump supported and got elected are: Gov. Kemp in Georgia, William Barr, conservative federal judges appointed, three Supreme Court justices appointed, the FBI.

Our president fought for us – the American people. He has endured a phony Russia investigation for three years, a phony impeachment and now a rigged election. He is now alone and we as a country have lost our right to free and fair elections.

We will never have another conservative president again. Life as we know it is over.

The Georgia Senate election is over without starting. Democrats have control of all branches of government, so America, here’s what you get for not backing Trump.

I am renouncing my Republican membership. I am now only a Trump MAGA party member. I will never vote Republican again. They are cowards, liars, hypocrites, spineless, just like Democrats. I would fight to stop what’s happening in our country, even die for it. It’s a sad time in American history!

This is not MY America that I love. Let’s all pray to stop what’s coming!

Eric Wheeler

Bowling Green

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Parameter Estimator

As a Christian who will be exercising their firmly held religious conviction against taking this vaccine on the grounds that Jesus said to let no man deceive me, I accept Kohe's blatant slander calling me a gaslighter, psuedo intellectual blah blah blah. The relevant data on how many placebo takers got Covid is on page 26. This is a spirit battle in our nation. The truth is there for any who care more than naught for Christ.

Koheleth

Q.E.D.

Enough Already

Well said.

Parameter Estimator

Dear Kohe is flat wrong on this. The data I mentioned is straight from the FDA regarding the Vaccine study, on the new vaccine, which Kohe no doubt worships without any restraint. The specific details are at https://www.fda.gov/media/144245/download.

It's sad that such a supposed rational thinker as Kohe would believe various coroners and those across the nation listing things like violence victims as COVID deaths because they died within thirty days. If that logic is to apply to the vaccine, everyone who dies within 30 days will have died from the vaccine, but we know the brainwashed won't be having that.

The fact remains, in the massive study, just undertaken, to fatten Bill Gates Wallet through biological tyranny of a new stripe for every disease in the future pipes that will attack us all - 162 people of 20K wound up testing positive, and one had to be hospitalized, and that one didn't die. Those are the facts.

Sad that Kohe dismisses as handwaving the one person QUOTING THE FDA RELEASE ON THE VACCINES THEY ARE GIVING PEOPLE.

Koheleth

I rest my case.

Enough Already

The only thing Kochhead is logical about is distorting things to reinforce his worldview. He is in for a rude awakening but he is so deceived he will never be able to attribute it to its rightful source, anti-God socialism.

Enough Already

The election is not over yet stupid people. There are still Constitutional solutions to this stolen election. No matter how improbable you may think it is, there is a chance that justice will prevail and we will retain President Trump for a 2nd term. I highly recommend if this comes about, he immediately open investigations into Hunter Biden, his father and several high up democrats connected to his business dealings. These people need to go to jail for their part in the ATTEMPTED theft of the election.

Koheleth

We have just bore witness to another heaping helping of the ramblings of a lunatic ladies and gentlemen. To those who helped remove the current presidential blight on Democratic norms, the above article is plenty enough reason to be assured you've contributed to doing the right thing.

To those who agree with the article writers summations, all one can say is... bless your heart.

Enough Already 2

Well, what a nice surprise we have here! In fact, it was delightful to see both Mr. Wheeler and Mr. Schwab, Sr. writing such timely letters on the same day. If only they had coordinated with Mr. Rains, we would have a triumvirate of sad tidings all full of sound and fury, and all signifying nothing! I would possibly think that Faulkner might have anticipated these characters as he spun out his stream of consciousness tale those many years ago.

Regardless, I do realize that there will still be many out there who will need their "poor little hearts" blessed.

To address Mr. Wheeler, I must first congratulate him on finally recognizing that President tRump, has actually lost the election. I am not yet sure what finally brought him to this realization. Perhaps it was the recognition that TIME Magazine gave to tRump as “LOSER of the YEAR”, or the Supreme Court assisting in continuing tRump’s losing record in trying to apply his alternative facts logic to the election outcome, or quiet possibly Mr. Wheeler had a direct communication from God that tRump had been a mistake. I mean if God in all of God’s majesty had put tRump in the office, then surely God in all of God’s majesty can jerk tRump’s worthless big butt out of the office!

Regardless of Mr. Wheeler’s reason for accepting that tRump is on his way out, I have been wondering how Mr. Wheeler was going to address his multiple comments to the distinguished Preacher, qōheleth, whereby he has offered multiple examples of “just you wait” admonitions pertaining to how everyone was going to see the courts, the congress, the Supreme Court, Jerry Falwell, Jr., God, and who knows whom else help pull this election out of tRump’s butt!

For my part, I do hope that the “triumvirate” all volunteer for a scientific study to determine if herd immunity without a vaccine can protect them from themselves.

What say ye?

Parameter Estimator

The study probably wouldn't work out the way you planned. In the totally trustworthy study on pfizer vaccine, 20,000 people received placebo, 162 tested positive for covid, and one had to go to the hospital. That's a 1 in 20,000 chance of being hospitalized with Covid in the general population, and that one didn't die. Nobody expects the math to work on the never trumpers because at their root is the hatred of white men having jobs. they all hate enforcement of immigration laws that made it so white men had a 80% chance of find a job instead of just 50% at the the start of his admin. Everything else they bloviate on is cover for their hate because they can't find any math to support harm being done to them. All the math points toward white men having jobs, which the new Democrat candidates plan to promptly obliterate. But regardless of the tangent there, the 'scientific study' you wanted was done, and it basically said people offering themselves for such a test would be totally fine.

Koheleth

Per CDC; The overall cumulative COVID-19-associated hospitalization rate through the week ending December 12, 2020, was 295.8 hospitalizations per 100,000 population.

It is patently obvious that your Parameter Estimator is still in dire need of recalibration.

On matters of epidemiology it's best to refer to credible epidemiologists. Not someone with a history of posting nonsense masquerading as scientifically, or 'mathematically' derived 'corroboration' or 'proofs'. Your tangents on white men, defenses of Trumpism, and futile attempts at gaslighting are proof enough for those of reasoned discernment to hand wave your pseudo-logically derived assessments away as so much balderdash.

Dr. Strangelove

Gee EA-2, it's nice to know that I'm in your head so much you bring me in on the conversation. Thanks. Have been out of town and pretty much tired of hearing the same leftist caca on a different day. Yes, my name is Brent Rains. Not fearful of letting it out. What's yours powerhouse? I await the sound of crickets chirping. LOL

And for the record, Biden, Harris, etc. will never be my leader. I truly will not comply with their BS or yours. Toodles!

Enough Already

They have duped you, as usual. Your desire to embrace socialism keeps you from examining the facts because they will confront you with the truth.

We have caught these people coding everything from a hangnail to a gunshot as COVID, and you still don't get it. Back in September, the CDC said the survival rate by age was:

0-19: 99.997%

20-49: 99.98%

50-69: 99.5%

70+: 94.6%

That really hasn't changed except to get better. After almost a year of lies coming out of the FDA, CDC and other "health" organizations, you still show no sign of understanding. When you echo those who tell us how important, it is to trust the experts you conveniently forget that the "experts" number one spokesman, Dr. Fauci, has given us contradicting advice from the beginning.

Who can forget Dr. Fauci's advice that surgical masks are dangerous for the general public? Or that China was "transparent" and a big, big help in fighting Covid-19?

Then there was Fauci's assertion that Hydroxychloroquine is ineffective in the early-stage treatment of the virus, and is super-duper dangerous besides. That SARS-CoV-2 just popped up naturally and didn't come from Satan's workshop in Wuhan, China. How about his recommendation that helped get worthless drug Remdesivir hastily approved, but does nothing? Correction: It does nothing except make obscene profits for the drug company. Fauci is a giant bag of contradictions that you lemmings can't get enough of. Enjoy your shot, and the next one, and the one after that, and...

Koheleth

Your track record is well known. You remain in conflict with reality.

Enough Already

Your pat answer when you cannot refute the truth. You are a liar and by any other name you remain a liar.

Liar!

Koheleth

More of that classic EA projection. I've got the receipts on just who the quintessential Liar is.

Although one needn't go any further than your above post to parse out that truth. Feel free to provide any fact-based evidence, conspiracy theory BS need not apply, proving my perceived inaccuracies. I'll gladly correct any erroneous declarations made by me.

And... GO!

Koheleth

So, nothing then there big guy? That's what I thought. Stay in your lane and you're less likely to be run over.

Enough Already

Are you off your meds again or just abusing them? Jan 20th is the date kochhead.

Koheleth

Nah chief. I was referring to your penchant for lying and giving you an avenue to prove your assertions about me were anything but so much projection. Once again, you've failed to make your case. You are just plain wrong about 1/20/21 if you think that Trump will stay in office. You are flat out lying about the things you posted above. Allow me to parse out a handful of examples.

"They have duped you, as usual. Your desire to embrace socialism keeps you from examining the facts because they will confront you with the truth."

Show me exactly where I've been 'duped'. Show me exactly where I've 'embraced socialism'. Still waiting for you to define that term by the way. Show me exactly where I've neglected to examine the 'facts'. Show me exactly where I've been in opposition to the 'truth'.

"We have caught these people coding everything from a hangnail to a gunshot as COVID, and you still don't get it."

Yet, neither you nor they considering you have said 'we', have presented any substantiated evidence of this having taken place. Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, bloggers, nor conspiracy theorists sites when used as evidence are evidence of anything other than an extreme case of credulity. That much I do get.

"CDC said the survival rate by age was: 0-19: 99.997% 20-49: 99.98% 50-69: 99.5% 70+: 94.6%"

CDC spokesperson Jasmine Reed has stated that the agency has not released any age-specific COVID-19 survival rates. Appears as though this one has been pulled from the BS pile and by virtue of you stating it as fact, well... let's just say, such actions make you a complicit liar.

The entirety of the rest of your above post is either willful ignorance on your part, or outright lies. Considering that others, as well as myself, have pointed out where you were mistaken in these matters, here as well as on other threads, we can only deduce that you are in fact a habitual Liar. And yes, this is something that I can prove with links to previous exchanges concerning both the aforementioned topic as well as differing ones.

The only thing that you said that was factually correct was; "Then there was Fauci's assertion that Hydroxychloroquine is ineffective in the early-stage treatment of the virus..." This much appears to have remained true.

Your roll big guy. Considering that you will be veritably incapable of refuting what I've pointed out, I'll humbly accept your apology for your pestiferous assaults of my character with your incessant Lying.

Enjoy the remainder of the holidays.

Enough Already

so•cial•ism sō′shə-lĭz″əm

n. Any of various theories or systems of social organization in which the means of producing and distributing goods is owned collectively or by a centralized government that often plans and controls the economy.

n. The stage in Marxist-Leninist theory intermediate between capitalism and communism, in which the means of production are collectively owned but a completely classless society has not yet been achieved.

The goal of socialism is communism. ~ Vladimir Lenin

Good enough for you?

You are a socialist in denial. (If you support self proclaimed socialists, and you do, then you agree with them and you must be a socialist.)

This was a fraudulent election and still may be overturned before 1/20/2021. I happen to believe it will. That is a fact jack, whether you like it or not.

This is a sampling of articles attributing deaths to COVID when they are not.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/birx-says-government-is-classifying-all-deaths-of-patients-with-coronavirus-as-covid-19-deaths-regardless-of-cause

https://canadafreepress.com/article/the-cdc-confesses-to-lying-about-covid-19-death-numbers

https://fee.org/articles/physicians-say-hospitals-are-pressuring-er-docs-to-list-covid-19-on-death-certificates-here-s-why/

https://www.christianpost.com/news/cdc-director-agrees-that-hospitals-have-monetary-incentive-to-inflate-covid-19-data.html

https://www.foxnews.com/us/pa-removes-200-deaths-official-coronavirus-count-questions-mount-reporting-process-data-accuracy

https://www.fox35orlando.com/news/fox-35-investigates-questions-raised-after-fatal-motorcycle-crash-listed-as-covid-19-death

There are hundreds of these articles. Only a fool or an intentional liar would deny this is going on. So are you a fool or a liar, or Both?

The CDC published data, that when converted (and other people have done this so it is understandable) tells you their opinion of the survival rates for various ages. They choose not to do the conversion so dullards such as yourself have plausible deniability.

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/hcp/planning-scenarios.html QUOTE: "The five COVID-19 Pandemic Planning Scenarios represent a range of possible parameters for COVID-19 in the United States. All parameter values are based on current COVID-19 surveillance data and scientific knowledge."

In Table 1. Parameter Values Scenario 5: you will find Current Best Estimate Infection Fatality Ratio” for COVID-19. This is based on real world numbers. If you convert this data to percentages, you get understandable data that gives you the survivability rate which currently is: Aged: 0-19, 99.997% chance of surviving COVID.

Aged: 20-49, 99.98% chance of surviving COVID.

Aged: 50-69, 99.5% chance of surviving COVID.

Aged: 70+, 94.6% chance of surviving COVID.

The median age in the US is 38.4 years old. This means for the average American, IF you become infected with COVID-19, your survival rate is 99.98%.

YOU, and those like you, remain intentionally stupid about this and other things because it does not support your worldview. I have no respect for your arguments, your silly detailed record keeping about past conversations, or any other "proofs" you care to offer. It is just indicative of how sick you really are. BUT, I do wish you a

MERRY CHRISTMAS

Koheleth

"Good enough for you?"

That'll do pig. Now feel free to show me exactly where have I endorsed this philosophy.

"This was a fraudulent election and still may be overturned before 1/20/2021"

If you truly believe that, all I can say is you remain in conflict with reality.

"This is a sampling of articles attributing deaths to COVID when they are not."

And they've all been debunked as erroneous and/or misleading.

"Only a fool or an intentional liar would deny this is going on. So are you a fool or a liar, or Both?"

Obviously neither considering the relevant evidence remains in my favor. Doesn't look too good for you though. So are you a fool or a liar, or Both? Rhetorical question. The answer is obvious.

"The CDC published data, that when converted (and other people have done this so it is understandable) tells you their opinion of the survival rates for various ages."

CDC spokesperson Jasmine Reed has stated that the agency has not released any age-specific COVID-19 survival rates, nor does it have mortality rates available.

Survival analysis is highly complex, and the CDC does not have the data to calculate survivability for COVID-19 according to Reed. Social Media/Conspiracy Theorists has/have failed you once again.

"The median age in the US is 38.4 years old. This means for the average American, IF you become infected with COVID-19, your survival rate is 99.98%."

See above. But in case you missed it; CDC does not have the data to calculate survivability for COVID-19. There, that's twice now that you've been evidentially informed.

"YOU, and those like you, remain intentionally stupid about this and other things because it does not support your worldview."

EA projection once again rears its addlepated head.

"I have no respect for your arguments, your silly detailed record keeping about past conversations, or any other "proofs" you care to offer."

Of course you wouldn't. They continually make you look bad. Just remember this; Facts don't care about your feelings.

"It is just indicative of how sick you really are."

If being sick means exposing and correcting Liars such as yourself then consider me terminally ill.

Better luck next time big guy. Good Day.

Enough Already

You defend and support socialist politicians with passion. Your actions are all that is necessary to show you are in favor of their policies. Unless you are just in this for the argument, you are a closet socialist that refuses to come out of the closet.

Nothing has been debunked, but only denied, and people like you coninue to circulate the lies and misinformation. The relevant evidence is not in your favor only the overwhelming fake news of which you lap up regularly. You have confirmed you are both a liar and a fool but you already knew that.

Obviously you are to stupid to do the math on the survivability rate, either that or you are a liar and a fool. Yes, you are a liar and a fool.

It is true facts don't care about your feelings, but you have yet to provide any. Lies don't care either but that was never the point. See if you can figure that out. You won't or can't or you will be completely wrong.

Exposing and correcting lies has nothing to do with your sickness, besides you have yet to do that. It appears you have one thing right though. You are terminally ill, but from stupidity.

It was fun dissecting your lies, but now I will be out making merry the rest of the day so I bid you a fond farewell.

And have yourself a Merry Little Christmas too chief.

Koheleth

"You defend and support socialist politicians with passion."

Then you should have no problem pointing out where this 'defense' and 'support' has taken place. I'll wait.

"Your actions are all that is necessary to show you are in favor of their policies."

Who is this 'they' and what are their 'policies'?

"Unless you are just in this for the argument..."

I've already explained why I engage in these exchanges. Have you not been paying attention?

"you are a closet socialist that refuses to come out of the closet."

Another assertion of facts not in evidence.

"Nothing has been debunked, but only denied,'

Yeah, it has been thoroughly debunked. The only ones in denial are those such as yourself.

"and people like you coninue [sic] to circulate the lies and misinformation."

Ahh, the perpetual subject of fever dream machinations and propaganda recitals accusing others of lies and misinformation. There's a name for that. Care to guess what that is? Here's a hint, it starts with a c and ends with a y.

"The relevant evidence is not in your favor only the overwhelming fake news of which you lap up regularly."

And by fake news you mean that which is beholden to the credible evidence. In this case you would be correct in accusing me of following where this evidence leads.

"You have confirmed you are both a liar and a fool but you already knew that."

Tu quoque

"Obviously you are to [sic] stupid to do the math on the survivability rate"

For the third time now, CDC spokesperson Jasmine Reed has stated that the agency has not released any age-specific COVID-19 survival rates. Survival analysis is highly complex, and the CDC does not have the data to calculate survivability for COVID-19. If they cannot supply that information neither can I. You can pull figures from your posterior but they're not going to be very convincing given that you absolutely do not have more knowledge about this topic than they.

"It is true facts don't care about your feelings, but you have yet to provide any."

Then you should have no problem pointing this out with specificity. What's the holdup?

"Exposing and correcting lies has nothing to do with your sickness, besides you have yet to do that."

You've apparently not been paying attention. Give me an example of one that you are having an issue with and I'll see if I can elaborate on it for you.

"It was fun dissecting your lies"

Which ones specifically have you dissected?

(The answer to the hint above is 'calumny').

Enough Already

Nothing new from you here, just the same old denial, double talk and endless demands for proof, which have already been provided. Admitting nothing and denying everything is your strategy but I'm not playing any longer. You remain a loser with a denial problem.

Koheleth

Flat Earthers claim that they have provided proof. Young Earth creationists claim that they have provided proof. Evolution deniers claim that they have provided proof. Biblical literalists claim that they have provided proof. Chemtrail advocates claim that they have provided proof. Bigfoot hunters claim that they have provided proof. Area 51, Roswell and alien abduction survivors claim that they have provided proof. Q-Anon claims to have proof of many crackpot theories.

I could go on but surely the point has been sufficiently advanced.

The problem with all of those alleged 'proofs' is that they cannot stand up to scrutiny. This is the same problem that you have. It has been demonstrated time and again.

Enough Already

"Flat Earthers claim that they have provided proof. Young Earth creationists claim that they have provided proof. Evolution deniers claim that they have provided proof. Biblical literalists claim that they have provided proof. Chemtrail advocates claim that they have provided proof. Bigfoot hunters claim that they have provided proof. Area 51, Roswell and alien abduction survivors claim that they have provided proof. Q-Anon claims to have proof of many crackpot theories."

Sadly I reject all of this. Citations required...

Koheleth

As I've stated in the past, I refrain from posting links from other sources on BGDNews' site. But I also know that you tend to be a dim-bulb when it comes to this perfectly respectful to the medium I'm utilizing preference of mine. In this instance however I shall forgo this edict so as to satisfy your request for resources. I dare not use the term 'citations' considering the subject matter does not rise to the levels required for scholarly inquiry or content. Nor is this meant as an exhaustive list.

For Flat Earther content you should probably start here; https://www.tfes.org

For YEC, Evolution denial, and Biblical literalism adherences; https://answersingenesis.org

For Chemtrail advocates you may look here; https://byebyebluesky.com

For Bigfoot aficionados visit here; https://www.bfro.net

For Alien abduction and other UFO related items you can reach out to different groups to discuss those experiences here;

https://www.meetup.com/topics/alien

For Q-Anon idiocy... well I'm sure you already have that information.

That should satisfy your inquiry. Enjoy!

Enough Already

Well that was worthless. General links to these groups proves nothing. Show me specific citations and then show me how they are in error. Otherwise it is just you against them.

Enough Already

You don't provide links to specifics because you are lazy and want people to take your word for everything. Of course we both know your word is worthless.

Koheleth

You do know how links work right? The links take you to the claims, which incorporate the specifics made by the proponents of the links. Inside you'll find these supposed 'proofs' or 'citations' if you prefer that term. Although, as I previously stated, the term citations when considering this subject matter does not rise to the levels for scholarly inquiry of which that term generally applies.

If you are requesting that I provide a systematic debunking to all the content one would encounter when indulging such conspiracy theories then you are sadly mistaken. I see no worthwhile benefits in arguing over the shape of the Earth, or whether or not Sasquatches roam amongst us, or whether or not people have been anally probed by extra terrestrials, or the possibility of the government controlling the weather or sickening the population via chemical agents dispersed throughout the atmosphere, or that the Earth is six to ten thousand years old, and that a dirt man and a rib woman gave birth to a couple of sons and of which had an incestuous relationship of which subsequently led to populating the Earth.

You need to learn how claims work. It is incumbent on the one making claims to prove the veracity of their submissions. If you wish to believe any of those things are true then feel free. If you are confident that you can defend any of them and that others should give credence to them as well then saddle up and ride that evidence right this way cowboy. Catch you later on down the trail there big guy.

Enough Already

I know exactly how this works. You always have high-minded reasons it is beneath you to provide solid evidence but you lie and deny and insist it is incumbent on everyone else to provide the proof that you are wrong. You conveniently don't provide links because that is work you don't wish to do, and when you do, they are vague and useless and don't directly address that which you deny. Your "no worthwhile benefits" claim is typical justification you use to not do what you request of others. In short, you are a pseudo-intellectual fraud.

Koheleth

" it is beneath you to provide solid evidence..."

Solid evidence for what? Be specific man.

"insist it is incumbent on everyone else to provide the proof that you are wrong."

What affirmative declarations have I made that would necessitate me providing evidence for? See above.

"You conveniently don't provide links..."

I provided five links, that's 5 links, that are posted plain as day above that would inform you as to just exactly what the arguments proponents of these conspiracy theories entail. If I was among those promoting any of these theories then I would be required to present the evidence for my position. You would be well advised to learn what the burden of proof is and where it lies.

"and when you do ,they are vague and useless and don't directly address that which you deny."

How can one not provide links and also at the same time provide links? You're glitching in the logic department here fella. Take a breathe and think things through before hammering away on the keyboard.

"typical justification you use to not do what you request of others."

Specific instances need apply here.

"In short, you are a pseudo-intellectual fraud."

That is entirely possible, but the onus is on you to provide the evidence considering that you have asserted such is fact.

In summary, you may wish to familiarize yourself on the precepts of formal logic and then review the entirety of this thread before replying any further.

Good Day.

Enough Already

I won't address most of your nonsense because they are just that, nonsense, just this...

"How can one not provide links and also at the same time provide links? You're glitching in the logic department here fella. Take a breathe and think things through before hammering away on the keyboard."

I said if you do, they are useless and do not address the issue. No problem here though because that is the type of response I expected, a dodge that you are well known for. It will not be long now and we will have our answer, just a short 20 days.

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