If we see a family’s house on fire, what will we do?

Will we sit by and watch it burn? Knowing there are children in it, will we call 911 and go inside and help save as many as we can? We may get burned, breathe in smoke, and yes, perhaps die. We’ve all heard the Golden Rule: “Treat people the way we want to be treated." Paraphrasing what Jesus said in Matthew 7:12 – "So in everything, do to others what you would have them do to you, for this sums up the Law and the Prophets." How many of us have risked something to help someone else as we would want it to be?

Today, our families are on fire, their very being attacked, devalued, lied to, filled with propaganda in every aspect of culture and education. In every aspect of what God had established with respect to mother, father and their responsibilities to children and God has been slowly but surely redefined downward, perverting the meaning of love, character, and most of all cheapening the value of life – especially of the child in a mother’s womb. In 1993, then-Sen. Patrick Moynihan, D-N.Y., coined the phrase “defining deviancy down." In other words, deviant behavior was redefined to a lower standard to say it is normal.

In America, such has been the efforts by the LGBTQ faction, Planned Parenthood, the radical feminists of the so-called “women’s rights” faction and today’s Democratic Party to exempt abnormal and deviant behavior, as has been recognized by Judeo-Christian values since and before our founding. If a person kills a pregnant mother, in most cases you will be charged with a double homicide murder.

The killing of unborn is murder, so act like it's murder. Any other passive action will not work.

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Enough Already 2

Somewhere down below, there were two questions asked, but there was no response provided. While my response probably does not align with everyone else’s ideas, at least it is a response! I have borrowed selectively from others to present my thoughts.

For the first question: Would it change your mind if the definitional criteria for what constitutes a cult were demonstrated to extend to the Christian religion?

My answer: Recognizing the difference between the secular definition of a cult and the religious definition, I would recognize the evangelical wing of the Christian religion as a cult. This faction of the Christian religion has been merged with the Trumpian political movement.

“Such cults teach the basics of the Christian faith but have behavioral patterns that are abusive, controlling and cultist. These groups have an ELITIST view of them self in relation to others, and a UNIQUE CAUSE. e.i. THEY ARE THE ONLY ONES RIGHT - everyone else is wrong. THEY ARE THE ONLY ONES DOING GOD'S WILL - everyone else is in apostasy.”

“These cults will promote their cause actively, and in doing so, abuse our inalienable personal rights and freedoms. This abuse can be THEOLOGICAL, SPIRITUAL, SOCIAL & PSYCHOLOGICAL.

For the second question. What qualities do you suppose prudent from someone in a leadership position?

My answer: Someone who respects “The idea of family, mutuality, the sharing of benefits and burdens for the good of all, feeling one another’s pain, sharing one another’s blessings — reasonably, honestly, fairly, without respect to race or sex or geography or political affiliation.”

How does this compare with the current individual in the White House who seems immune to feeling others’ pain?

What say ye?

Enough Already

I believe Kohleath is onto something when he says he thinks he knows your identity. After analyzing your comment I believe I may also. Welcome back! It has not been the same without you. Now for the 2 questions.

A a prelude to the question of cults, it is immaterial what the secular world calls a cult in relation to Christianity. The only things that matters here is what does Christianity recognize as a cult within its own ranks.

#1 I disagree with your answer, completely. (Surprise right?) First, because there is only one true religion, Christianity, all the rest are false. There is no democracy in Christianity or negotiated consensus with God. It says quite plainly if anyone preaches a a gospel contrary to what we have preached to you, a curse be on him! (Galatians 1:8) Second, within Christianity there are denominational differences unrelated to the all important message of salvation, but on core beliefs there is agreement. If you fall outside of that you are a cult. This is not a difficult concept to grasp. The Bible is the the final authority on beliefs. If you preach something else you belong to a cult, and no high priest anywhere can justify that and honestly call himself a Christian.

Something tells me that you belong to a heretical institution if you are even a believer at all. Remember: the Bible is the word of God and the final authority on all things spiritual.

#2 A "Leadership Position" you say? My answer is he should be strong, highly competent and produce results instead of promises only, but because you are actually referring to the office of president of the United States, a rock solid believer in the Constitution of the United States is very important. He should be committed to the rule of law and not actively look for ways to circumvent the Constitution like Obama did. Obama and the democrat party have no respect for our constitution so it is refreshing to see an honest man in that position.

As for his past indiscretions there can be no doubt they were wrong but I dare say if we were permitted to look behind the scenes of any other president to hold office we would find that they were no better and many of them were lousy chief administrators, something that Donald Trump is excellent at. We could detail some of those past presidential sins but I think you get the idea. All those other pleasant qualities you named are an enhancement but ultimately secondary to leadership as the chief executive.

How does this compare with President Donald Trump?

Trump is an excellent decision maker, strong leader, does what he says and has the results to prove it. He is far more compassionate than you or the press give him credit for. There is proof to that end whether the MSM reports it or not. A couple of articles:

https://themuslimtimes.info/2016/12/19/donald-trumps-extraordinary-kindness/comment-page-1/

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/jul/17/alveda-king-donald-trump-is-compassionate-brillian/

https://gladwire.com/trumps-random-act-kindness-leaving-everyone-stunned/

Koheleth

"it is immaterial what the secular world calls a cult in relation to Christianity. The only things that matters here is what does Christianity recognize as a cult within its own ranks."

Um. No. That's called the fallacy of special pleading.

Cult definitions by numeric order.

"if anyone preaches a a gospel contrary to what we have preached to you, a curse be on him!"

1- A particular system of religious worship, especially with reference to its rites and ceremonies.

"The word of God."

2- An instance of great veneration of a person, ideal, or thing, especially as manifested by a body of admirers.

"The Bible is the the final authority on beliefs."

3- The object of such devotion.

"Only one true religion, Christianity."

4- A group or sect bound together by veneration of the same thing, person, ideal, etc.

"Within Christianity there are denominational differences."

5- A religion or sect considered to be false, unorthodox, or extremist, with members often living outside of conventional society under the direction of a charismatic leader. Mark 3;21; When his family heard about this, they went to take charge of him, for they said, He is out of his mind. Where did the disciples live? Rome considered Christians as atheists.

6- Any system for treating human sickness that originated by a person usually claiming to have sole insight into the nature of disease, and that employs methods regarded as unorthodox or unscientific.

The Gospels overflow with stories of Jesus healing every kind of bodily affliction. So did his disciples, whom he promised that they could do the same works that he did.

You belong to a cult.

As to your attempt to defend the indefensible in part two. I'm willing to bet money that Don 'The Con' Trump, hasn't even read the Constitution. Hell, I bet he couldn't even spell Constitution. Sexually violating the flag is not a good metric to use when judging someones respect for, or knowledge of, their Country.

And he cares so much for the rule of Law that he has spent his entire life trying to circumvent it.

Your articles contain errors of omission. How about Trump University diploma mill. Trump Charity misdeeds. The Trump Network pyramid scheme. Where are those Tax returns? How about just the general incompetence he displays daily? How about the incessant lying? (I can see where you forgive that one actually, considering it is a staple of yours as well.) I could continue, but I know that your obstinate mind will reject actual reality and substitute your own.

Anyway...

You belong to two cults.

Koheleth

For those of you following along, EA has posted his insipid reply to my rejoinder down below. He's surely hoping no one notices the frailty of his remonstrations. If you feel the need to chime in, don't be too hard on the lad. It is undoubtedly devastating enough to have your entire worldview exposed as a web of lies and deceit. I know, he consistently asks for it, but still, we must be empathetic at times like this. Even though we regulars know he will pop back up again, either as EA, or his alter, Eric Wheeler, espousing the same old worn out points refuted a thousand times tripe.

My work is done here. Until next time.

Le Ecrivain

If your religion doesn't make you right when everyone else is wrong, then your religion is no better than a typical secular university.

Enough Already

I couldn't agree with you more. Many play that game. (Many paths to God) Why would they bother except to say, "I didn't know!"

2Ti 3:5  Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away. 

Le Ecrivain

Even the most arden disbelievers in traditional family values must admit the complete absurdity and inappropriateness of allowing abortions but not skin cancer removals. Calling one necessary, and the other not.

Enough Already

That would be common sense, but if you are a diehard socialist democrat you can never admit that because you would be branded a traitor by the other buffoons on the left. I look for these jokers to next tell me that men need abortions too, just like they went on record stating they have periods.

Koheleth

"devalued, lied to, filled with propaganda..."

Sounds familiar to the tenets of the cult of Christianity. Oh... and Trumpism. Which these days it's increasingly difficult to distinguish many differences between the two.

Enough Already

Once again you have confused your own brand of lying, (socialism, communism, atheism, imbecilism) with truth.

Exhibit A: (D) Pelosi's 1400 page bill intended to advance socialism under the guise of Coronavirus help, all paid for by the American taxpayer. - Typical jackass Democrat stunt.

Koheleth

Prove it chief.

Enough Already

The proof is 1400 pages seemingly produced overnight with a socialist wish list democrats have been trying to get for years. It has nothing to do with Coronavirus relief. This is plain to see accept for the intentionally blind. See yourself yet?

Enough Already

Here's the agenda attached to her coronavirus bill (which proves it's not about coronavirus AT ALL)

1. Increased fuel emission standards for airlines receiving funds and carbon offsets.

2. Payment for up to $10, 000 in student loans:

3. Same-day voter registration, early voting, voting by mail, ballot harvesting

4. Preserving collective bargaining powers for unions.

5. The expansion of wind and solar tax credits.

6.Requirements for federal and corporate gender and racial diversity data.

7. Post Office Bailout.

8. Automatic extension of non immigrant visas.

9. Restricting colleges from providing information about citizenship status.

10. Money for Planned Parenthood

NANCY SHOULD BE ARRESTED. TO DO THIS DURING A NATIONAL EMERGENCY IS OPPORTUNISM. CLEARLY, SHE DOES NOT GIVE A DA*N ABOUT THE AMERICAN PEOPLE.

Koheleth

Where's this socialism bit you keep bleating about there boss? Nothing of the such contained in your proof list. Closest thing would be strengthening unions, but that wouldn't even classify as 'socialism'. Maybe you just don't understand the term enough to comment on it. Certainly wouldn't be the first time that a concept was beyond your understanding. I'm positive that it won't be the last either.

Enough Already

As usual you strain at a gnat, unable to comprehend the big picture because of your myopic focus on supporting leftist politics at any cost. House Majority Whip James Clyburn (D) said, “This is a tremendous opportunity to restructure things to fit our vision”. In 2008 Rahm Emanuel, said, “You never want a serious crisis to go to waste. And what I mean by that is an opportunity to do things that you think you could not do before.” Intelligent people see a pattern here but I will spell it out for you because obviously you do not have the mental capacity to connect the dots.

None of those 10 items on Pelosi’s list has ANYTHING to do with Coronavirus relief but all are major nanny state goodies democrats want in order to persuade gullible voters in the next election. Global warming has nothing to do with the Coronavirus but everything to do with pushing their leftist agenda. Forgiving student loan debt has nothing to do with the Coronavirus but everything to do with pushing their leftist agenda. Fuel emission standards and carbon offsets has nothing to do with the Coronavirus but everything to do with pushing their leftist agenda. Same-day voter registration, early voting, voting by mail has nothing to do with the Coronavirus but everything to do with pushing their leftist agenda. Collective bargaining powers for unions, expansion of wind and solar tax credits, requirements for federal and corporate gender and racial diversity data, Post Office Bailout, automatic extension of non-immigrant visas, restricting colleges from providing information about citizenship status, and especially, money for Planned Parenthood has nothing to do with the Coronavirus but everything to do with pushing their leftist agenda. There are other expensive waste items buried in the 1400 PAGES but these are only the highlights. How did democrats came up with 1400 page relief bill over the weekend? They didn’t. It was a setup. It is all politics to them when the country is circling the drain because it accelerates what they really want, the country bankrupt, with the federal government calling all the shots and dictating to the citizens how it will be. By holding this relief bill up for ransom while people are sick and dying Pelosi has driven up the cost tremendously to make advances in the democrat socialist agenda. Intelligent people realize this.

You have unsuccessfully tried to provide cover for democrats who are only trying to advance their agenda to buy the electorate and create a socialist state. As a socialist it must pain you to see this printed in black and white but here it is in all its glory.

How to create a social state – The Cloward-Piven Strategy:

There are eight levels of control that must be obtained before you are able to create a social state, and all Democrats, Socialists and Communists know what they are. This is what Saul Alinsky put forth in his 'Rules For Radicals', and this is what the current panic over the COVID-19 coronavirus outbreak is trying to create. Pay most attention to Rule #1, this is where all government control begins and ends, by controlling your health care.

The first is the most important.

1. Healthcare– Control healthcare and you control the people. (The reason for this bill and why democrats continue to push for single payer and or Medicare for all.)

2. Poverty – Increase the Poverty level as high as possible, poor people are easier to control and will not fight back if you are providing everything for them to live. (Trillions more in debt and no one working)

3. Debt – Increase the debt to an unsustainable level. That way you are able to increase taxes, and this will produce more poverty. (Trillions more in debt and no one working)

4. Gun Control – Remove the ability to defend themselves from the Government. That way you are able to create a police state (Being pushed by democrats around the country, unknown if in this bill)

5. Welfare – Take control of every aspect of their lives. (Food, Housing, and Income) (Trillions more in debt and no one working)

6. Education – Take control of what people read and listen to. Take control of what children learn in school. (On going and successful for 50+ years with PS and universities staffed by liberals revising history and pushing socialist policies)

7. Religion – Remove the belief in God from the Government and schools. (On going and successful)

8. Class Warfare – Divide the people into the wealthy and the poor. This will cause more discontent and it will be easier to take (Tax) the wealthy with the support of the poor. (Pushed hard by Obama and democrats still pushing today)

Koheleth

So nothing then? That's what I knew you'd come up with, because nothing was all that you possibly could present.

You've went and jumped down various other rabbit holes of which I will make comment on only the one issue. Covid-19

Your Mango Messiah said that the virus was a Democratic hoax, and that there would be very few cases in the US, and that it would be gone around April. This being a small sampling amongst a plethora of other idiotic utterances. If, in his infallible wisdom, this were the case then why do we even need a 'socialist' type bailout. The reason, dear friend, is because this inept administration has allowed the enemy to gain a foothold because they were afraid of the economic consequences, of which have yet to come to fruition mind you, because your dear leader needs those numbers to be up, or he's out.

As to a couple of other line items, I know I said I'd address just the one, but this ties into the first. If we were to let the climate crisis to continue unabated we are in for consequences that will make this current pandemic look like not much more than an annoying cough. Hence, I can only speculate that this is the reason for including such measures in the bill. There are undoubtedly superfluous items shoved into every piece of legislation. Such is the nature of politics. I believe that the rejected Republican Senate draft contained legislation on abortive procedures, among other non Covid-19 related items. Both parties are guilty of politicization.

We already know what the Conservative branch of the Republican party thinks about this issue, and I say if they refuse to be reasoned with, do whatever is necessary for the common good. They have been on record as stating AGW is a hoax as well.

I'm constantly reminded of what Mr. Mill said of this ideology; Conservative people are not necessarily stupid, but stupid people do tend to be conservative.

And it has been repeatedly demonstrated that you belong to the group he was referring to in the latter portion of that astute quote.

Cheers.

Enough Already

You just refuse to accept the proof. It is plain to people who don’t lean communist but you seem to be either ignorant or intentionally dishonest. In the interest of giving you the benefit of the doubt, (which you don’t deserve) I will just say you are at the very least extraordinarily naïve, even for someone of your limited thinking ability.

1. The president did not say the coronavirus was a hoax. While speaking at a rally in Charleston, South Carolina, President Trump brought up the coronavirus and democrat’s attempts to politicize the issue. Trump called those attempts a new hoax. https://checkyourfact.com/2020/02/29/fact-check-donald-trump-coronavirus-hoax-south-carolina-rally/

2. The president is handling this crisis very well and his latest polls prove the American public (minus you socialist/communist democrats) believe that also. He shut down flights from China Feb 2 while whining democrats were hollering it was too soon and racist. (Nothing new here) Now that he has consented to shutting down the country and providing a relief bill to offset the damage to the economy it is not enough according to the hypocrite democrats because they see an opportunity to advance THEIR SOCIALIST AGENDA.

3. There is no climate crisis. This is and always has been a HOAX. Only the stupid, the naïve, or those on the left’s payroll believe this nonsense. See yourself yet? You are at least one of the three and maybe more. The first step is identifying your problem and I have done that for you. Now, take action and don’t retreat to your fantasy world again.

4. YOU: “I believe that the rejected Republican Senate draft contained legislation on abortive procedures, among other non Covid-19 related items. Both parties are guilty of politicization.” I say, PROVE IT CHIEF! I won’t hold my breath because you socialist democrats are too lazy for that.

Koheleth

Just thought you should know there's a lot of projection in that first paragraph there fella. Remember. I keep records of these 'discussions'.

Now, once more unto the breach.

"I say, PROVE IT CHIEF! I won’t hold my breath because you socialist democrats are too lazy for that."

Once again, neither Democrat nor what you've considered in your dismal attempts of understanding definitions, socialist. Pay attention. You keep making these errors of judgement even after having been told innumerable times. I'm a registered Independent. No particular party adherence. I make my decisions on ideas, not party lines or political affiliations. Comprende? (That means do you comprehend. Forgive me. I know you have a hard enough time with the English language. Especially when it is utilized properly.)

#1- I'm familiar with what he said. Quote, "Think of it. Think of it. And this is their new hoax." In context, Trump did not say in the passage above that the virus itself was a hoax. He instead said that Democrats’ criticism of his administration’s response to it was a hoax. He muddied the waters a few minutes later, however, by comparing the number of coronavirus fatalities in the U.S. (none, at that point in time) to the number of fatalities during an average flu season, and accusing the press of being in “hysteria mode.” Re-read what I wrote. And, you ain't seen nothing yet insofar as death toll or economic impact. Hold onto that little nugget. It will come back to relevancy later.

#2- No, no he's not. And no he didn't when he could have made greater inroads instead of talking about how it was not going to be a big deal, and how well they think they have it under control. And, we don't believe the polls, remember?

#3- Just shows the idiocy of anyone of that opinion, which is exactly what it would be. An opinion. Pure and simple. No one who knows anything empirical, read factual, about that subject denies the momentous evidence pointing to AGW. Again, you remain in conflict with reality.

#4- I do not posses the Senate draft, so forgive me, but this should provide plenty of evidence as to their intentions. A sticking point in the bill appears to be GOP demands for Hyde amendment inclusion; i.e, prevention of federal funds being used for abortion. Two issues are emerging as sticking points in negotiations between the White House and Speaker Pelosi on the Coronavirus aid bill.

The first and seemingly the bigger sticking point is paid sick leave, according to three sources familiar with the negotiations. Republicans are worried it creates new requirements for businesses that will last beyond Coronavirus. *** The other is abortion, according to five sources familiar with the contours of the negotiation.***

And... Republican attempts to wedge anti-choice restrictions into the House's relief bill, turning—if momentarily—a public health crisis into an abortion debate.

The tensions reportedly revolved around the Hyde Amendment, a decades-old provision that blocks federal funds from going to abortion services, preventing millions of low-income Americans on Medicaid from accessing abortion care. According to conservative media, some top Republicans believed a stipulation in the House bill requiring the government to reimburse private laboratories doing coronavirus testing could effectively overturn the Hyde Amendment. They've attempted the same shenanigans in 2016 during the Zika virus outbreak and 2017 in Trumps tax plan.

The modern EA/EW model Conservative modus operandi; 'Save the babies and Wall Street. To hell with Seniors and Main Street'.

You belong to a great cadre of characters there chief. (That's sarcasm by the way. I know you aren't very perceptive.)

Cheers once again my willfully ignorant, or increasingly obvious, abjectly stupid, albeit always lying lug you.

Enough Already

Let me translate your response:

YOU: I got nothing but I will continue to pretend I know something, ignore parts of his post detrimental to my argument, and hope he won’t notice. I have no proof of anything I say but I will continue to post around the edges, assert my false intellectual superiority and hope he buys it, after all he must know I think I’m a highly evolved intellectual and several generations smarter than my ape ancestors. Besides, I’m a dumbocrat masquerading as an independent and he doesn’t know that.

Except I do. You may be too lazy to change your registration to democrat, but more likely is you refuse to change your registration for plausible deniability so you can continue to pat yourself on the back for your “enlightened reasoning”. You are a fraud and too cowardly to own up to it.

#1- Everything is relative. Interpreting it in a negative light is what socialist democrats do to avoid being truthful. This way they can continue to harp about nothing ad nauseum.

#2- Yes, he is handling it well and his polls are up. The media and the simpletons that trust the media are the ones that are critical. They were all fine with Obama dragging his feet until millions were infected and 1000 Americans dead before declaring H1N1 a national emergency, but when Trump takes action early on they say he is over reacting and call him racist. We’ve seen this movie before and only idiots, democrat socialists, and democrat socialists registered as independents believe this garbage.

#3- The climate is always changing but it is not the end of the world chicken little! The WAPO ran an article in 1922 with the same tired lies. More recently you goofs went from a new ice age to global warming and when that stupidity blew up in your face you changed it to climate change. The government paid “scientists” have been caught falsifying data multiple times. Get a clue and don’t be such a sap.

#4- The democrats have provided the sticking points. The Hyde amendment is already law. Democrats are trying to prevent it from being included in this legislation. As usual, they are trying to include things unrelated to the legislation for partisan purposes.

“The first and seemingly the bigger sticking point is paid sick leave, … requirements for businesses that will last beyond Coronavirus”

Yes, democrats want to twist this into a long term SOCIALIST bill and Republicans are paying attention. Much different than Pelosi’s, “We have to pass the bill to know what’s in it”. Again no surprise. Republicans know better than to take lying democrats word for anything. They are snakes and completely untrustworthy. History proves this.

“The tensions reportedly revolved around the Hyde Amendment… According to conservative media, some top Republicans believed a stipulation in the House bill requiring the government to reimburse private laboratories doing coronavirus testing could effectively overturn the Hyde Amendment. They've attempted the same shenanigans in 2016 during the Zika virus outbreak and 2017 in Trumps tax plan.”

Yes, as I said, the demonrats never quit. They are always looking for a way to kill babies and Republicans don’t want it to happen in this bill. Abortion is not healthcare. It is legalized murder to kill a defenseless human being. Democrats represent Satan, death, hell, and you atheists. They have shown their true colors long ago with several demonrat states authorizing killing babies right up to their birthday and if somehow they miss that date they leave them uncared for after they are born till they die. This is indefensible and only sick people would even try and defend this. Go ahead and defend this you sicko.

You and your ilk are devoid of ethics and morality and truly represent evil.

Koheleth

I've already spent my allotted time replying to BR below. A good deal of it applies to you. Thanks for playing.

Enough Already

I understand. You can't run with the big dogs and you regret you ever waddled off the porch...

Koheleth

You continue to prove all indictments leveled against you veritably bona fides.

Enough Already

A puffed up atheist actually thinks we care how he defines Christianity, the Bible or anything related to faith? We do not. How naieve can you get? You can also continue bleating your fear of God and unbelief; nobody cares.

President Trump remains a far better president than the stuffed shirt communists you favor but then you would need a brain bigger than a BB to understand that. You remain a little booger on the nose of life and you will be picked and flicked away like the coagulated mucus you are, straight into hell. Only a big fish like you would believe everything the MSM tells you is the truth. Naivete is your name and dumb arrogance is your game. You will make a good little communist some day...

Enough Already

It's next time already.

As usual you've got nothing but arrogance, but do treat us to another one of your definitive but meaningless lessons on your opinion. No one cares but we do love to see you flex your dictionary...

Koheleth

I know the best words, believe me, nobody knows words better than I do.

Dr. Strangelove

Christianity a cult? Says little Satan. And yes, a lot of us Christians love Trump. And Solomon you are not.

Koheleth

You should change your username. Your current one is not befitting for someone of your caliber.

Dr. Strangelove

Hey there Koheleth. There's a lot of projection in those rants of yours. No matter how you name it , socialism is socialism which eventually becomes communism. And the Dem's loaded it with crap befitting their causes. So send me a 1000 line rant. There is no such thing as Democratic Socialism. It's all a matter of lying to the masses about what they're going to get and then government central control by all knowing types like yourself, which end up short changing them and stealing from the rest of us. Unions are socialistic and more like the mafia. You seem so angry. Cheers! Your Trump loving, ignorant deplorable Christian.

Koheleth

Hey there yourself. I'm not going to go on a 'rant' as you say. I will just point out a couple of missteps in your reply and then move on. I certainly have better things to do on such a nice day.

First- I would ask you to familiarize yourself with the term projection and then be so kind as to point out exactly where I committed the act so that I may go about either correcting the problem, or requesting a retraction from you on my character.

Second- Nowhere did I attempt to defend socialism, in any of its various guises. I merely informed EA that his presumptions were specious at best, entirely wrong at worst. He does that repeatedly. He also suffers from a lack of reading comprehension. A malady that I see may unfortunately be one that you two share.

3- There is in fact a political philosophy called Democratic Socialism. Allow me to insert the definition, so as I'm not scolded for being too lazy.

Democratic socialism is defined as having a socialist economy in which the means of production are socially and collectively owned or controlled, alongside a democratic political system of government. Again, just so we're clear. I am not advocating for it, merely correcting your oversight.

4- Nowhere in the history of my posts have I even remotely postulated that I knew everything. I know what I know, but all knowledge should be provisional and subject to revision when demonstrated to be lacking or erroneous.

5- Perhaps the gripe about a union would be better addressed by a union member. I happen to not be one.

6- I'm never angry when I post. Emotions tend to override critical thinking faculties. I do however make an attempt to call out unrepentant liars as well as those who disseminate subjective feelings as objective facts when an opportunity arises. Especially when potentially damaging consequences for neglecting to have done so are credible.

Cheers back to you.

Dr. Strangelove

Koheleth: Read your latest reply. Two questions. Why do you say Christianity is a cult? Just trying to learn your thoughts. And what is it Trump has done that causes you alarm or disdain? Not arguing, just wondering. Thanks

Koheleth

Read the post perhaps, but neglected any efforts towards resolving perceived discrepancies or retracting any and all false accusations leveled against me in the aforementioned items 1,2,3, and 4.

I've read your posting history and your sincerity is suspect.

As to your two questions.

For the first. Would it change your mind if the definitional criteria for what constitutes a cult were demonstrated to extend to the Christian religion?

For the second. What qualities do you suppose prudent from someone in a leadership position?

Enough Already

I noticed that Koheleth never did answer your question but instead posed 2 back at you. This is typical. He does not wish to be pinned down which allows him to continue to make all kinds of absurd claims to forward his atheist agenda. He cannot even bring himself to condemn communism much less socialism.

Koheleth

Notice how he neglected to address the four items I had previously requested him to?

At least he did change his name, so there's that.

Now, get back on the porch and lay down there Scooby.

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