After reading Larry Herrin’s rather incoherent letter of Sept. 25, with his Third Reich fantasies and dire warnings of the political collapse of our country, it is obvious that the Fearmonger-in-Chief has found exactly the right person to terrify.

No, there are no calls to “destroy the country” with a socialist revolution using Antifa as police, Mr. Herrin. This “socialism” you decry is rather difficult to nail down these days: are the enormous bail-outs to farmers after bungling a massive trade deal considered socialism? What about the newest gimmick: the $200 “Trump Card” to Medicare recipients to aid in the purchase of drugs, “funded” by the imaginary savings of a program not yet created by HHS? Medicare funding would take a nearly $7 billion hit, but so what? It’s a good bribe for votes, maybe. 

Your comment about American exceptionalism and patriotism is pretty interesting too. No, we are not a third world nation, but it’s very sad that our response to the COVID-19 pandemic is twice as bad in terms of deaths per 100,000 as the most ravaged African countries. And even stranger, perhaps for you, that just this week, nearly 500 career military personnel and dedicated national security veterans are endorsing Joe Biden for President, alerting all Americans that the re-election of Donald Trump is a dangerous disaster for our country. Can they all be wrong?

You might have your own definition of authoritarianism, but for me, reading the article on the very next page about panicked GOP leaders trying yet again to educate the president about the Constitution and the idea of a peaceful transition of power is very telling. Basically, they are saying “Ignore him and don’t listen to the rantings of someone who still doesn’t get it.” How frustrating it must be to have to constantly respond to his disrespect and dishonor to the United States.

Jane Barthelme

Bowling Green

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Enough Already 2

Again, after several weeks of no comment, I must step out of the shadow of quite observation, and pass on the expert medical advice that has continued to roll through the Facebook feed that scrolls my computer screen during my once daily check.

It would appear that much of this advice has an "East St Louis" flavor, but due to the prevalence of the "Facebook advice", it must be the right thing to do.

The recommendation is to quadrupole the Hydroxychloroquine dosage and inject or swallow a double shot equivalent of Clorox brand bleach!

Please pass this on the the Walter Reed staff ASAP!

Dr. Strangelove

https://www.healthline.com/health/cold-flu/mask

Read

Koheleth

Read both of them. They recommend mask utilization as a mitigation device. Same stuff anyone with a properly functioning, i.e, non-cultists kool aid adverse brain, has known for months now.

We can only presume that this is your admittance of having been in error all this time. If so, congratulations on your newfound intellectual honesty.

If not, your point in including these articles is certainly lost on me as they do your denialism no favors.

Parameter Estimator

Surely the Association of American Physicians and Surgeons' extensive rundown

on the subject will put the mask myths to bed. https://aapsonline.org/mask-facts/

Koheleth

Type 'aapsonline.org credibility' into your favorite browser search bar and draw your own conclusions.

Appears as though the Parameter Estimator is still on the fritz.

Enough Already

By now most of America must realize that the left (read Koheleth) must realize that the fake news media uses multiple ways to cast doubt on anybody that disagrees with them. The fact of the matter is this is accurate information, but it does not stop the lying MSM in America from casting doubt on all things Trump. Ignore BS like this and vote Trump in November, unless you want a babbling idiot like Joe Biden to screen for a real communist like Kamala Harris.

MAGA, Vote Trump 2020!

Dr. Strangelove

https://www.health.com/condition/infectious-diseases/coronavirus/does-wearing-face-mask-increase-co2-levels

victoria

I am really tired of people saying we are going to be socialists. If you really want to get rid of socialism in America, please return your Social Security checks. It has "Social" right in the title. And yes it is a socialist program. Everybody gets the check if they've worked and contributed enough credits. Otherwise, they get SSI; another socialist program meant to keep people from starving. But, please give back the money. You don't want to be on the government dole. Only socialists would let the government support them!

Enough Already

It's not that we're going to be socialists; that ship has already sailed. It's that the next step past socialism is communism. Advocating for nibbling around the edge is a foolish strategy. Like the frog slowly boiled in a pot, one day it will be too late. Venezuela will confirm that for you if you need proof. Something tells me even you won't like that "ism".

DownTheMiddle

Good points, Victoria. Do you suppose that everyone who likes to sling "socialism" around like a magic curse word refused the $1200 checks the government sent them this year? Did they turn down the $600 unemployment supplement? Are they protesting the possibility of the government issuing more of these checks?

Enough Already

I know how this song goes; "it can never happen here".

When the nasty aftertaste of socialism has become communism people like you will protest the loudest. Instead of singing the praises of your government bribes why don't you explore what Cuban Americans in Miami have to say about socialism? There is no substitute for 1st hand experience and they lived it.

It is said that Lenin referred to Americans who gave cover to communism as "useful idiots". He also said, "the reason for socialism is communism,".

DownTheMiddle

Did you send your $1200 back to the government with a note saying "I don't approve of socialism and I won't participate in it."?

Enough Already

You're singling out one doctor for ridicule but there are hundreds if not thousands of doctors around the world that testify when administered early hydroxychloroquine absolutely stops the virus dead. What you wrote is just a distraction from the truth about its effectiveness. Anyone who is so naïve as to trust everything that comes out of the halls of government deserves the results.

Koheleth

Wonder if the Doctors at Walter Reed got that memo? Guess we'll find out soon enough.

Absolutely Positively

I love nothing more than her comparison of our death rate to that of primitive African nations. The record keeping is probably top-notch, considering that any society advanced enough to involve the sacrifice of a live chicken before every medical procedure probably pays a lot of attention to detail as they use sticks to scratch out numerals in the dirt.

Parameter Estimator

I'm not convinced that practicing medicine by executive decree on medicine access is that much more sophisticated that sacrificing a live chicken. At least the live chicken sacrifice believes what they are doing, and there is something to be said for for that. At present, I would trust Kenya and Tanzania medical professionals over American any day of the week. It's the African nations that are leading the world now, because they still believe in the power of randomized medical studies to describe the situation. The American medical profession is engaged in a very elaborate game of repeat after me with Simon being the state governor or health officer. My blood pressure is Australian, My mask theories are Swedish, Belgian, and Danish, and my immunization theories are Kenyan and Tanzanian. Those are the places who back their statements up with data and science instead of repeat after me dance patterns.

Koheleth

Patently obvious, it's either Trump or America. We'll soon find out which.

Enough Already

Jane Barthelme is an example of what happens when you're indoctrinated instead

of educated. All the evidence is there, but she is so deceived she thinks socialism is a good thing, kind of Jr. communist wannabe stuff.

"The goal of socialism is communism." ~ Vladimir Lenin

Econobot

Coincidentally, suing said nursing homes for professional negligence is the only way to prevent such things, and that's why Republican demands for immunity for businesses is horrific, because it wants to wash half the deliberate deaths under a rug. There is NO PARTY who has the interests of the old folks at heart here unless they both do not want immunity for those who facilitated coronavirus deaths, and did not want hospitalized coronavirus patients sent to room and board with grandma. Few and far between on that. Republicons want immunity for all those doctors and nurses who should have stood in the breech, and democrats wanted the horror show in the first place.

Parameter Estimator

The immunity thing is bigger than incentivizing behavior. The outcomes of lawsuits often enter the body of law. Judgements that contradict science or medical procedures could become law. The Republican attempts to ensure immunity are about larger issues than individual professional failings.

Econobot

Those most ravaged African countries all have Hydroxychloroquine sold over the counter. They didn't let their governors dictate what medicines could be taken or not because said governors hated the federal executive. Americans coronavirus numbers are 1) inflated and 2) almost half of them due to Democrat governors in five states dictating that coronavirus patients with symptoms who were already hospitalized were to be sent into nursing homes. If that happened in the 1990s in Africa people would have called it a genocide.

DownTheMiddle

Are you actually suggesting that hydoxychloroquine is the miracle cure that has saved African countries from the coronavirus pandemic? Do you understand that every medical expert has said that hydroxychloroquine is totally ineffective in fighting Covid-19 and in some patients may be harmful? And somehow you know more than they do? I'll tell you what has kept the fatality numbers relatively low in Africa. They locked down early and hard. Some schools did not start at all this fall but plan to start in January. Your AON conspiracy theory about Democratic governors seeding nursing homes with coronavirus patients is even crazier. You need to quit drinking the Fox/AON Kool-Aid.

Dr. Strangelove

Hydroxychloroquine has been used for decades to prevent malaria in Africa. The synthetic version of quinine. And yes practicing doctors say it is very effective used as a preventative treatment against COVID. The key is preventative or in early development of the virus, as a base treatment in conjunction with Azithromycin.. And these doctors who met in DC, some educated in African Med schools were deleted from Twitter feeds so as not to upset this SCAM-DEMIC. Which is what it is. I said so in late March and it continues today. So put on your mask, stay in your house and shut up.

DownTheMiddle

Practicing doctors? Do you mean Stella Immanuel? The crazy woman who blames medical conditions on witches and demons? She says they have sex with people in a dream world. "They turn into a woman and then they sleep with the man and collect his sperm… then they turn into the man and they sleep with a man and deposit the sperm and reproduce more of themselves," she said in 2013. You and Trump would rather believe a quack like her than the entire staff of the CDC? Good luck with that if you get the coronavirus.

Econobot

Policy and decisions are not made by the entire staff. They are made by the nearest boss, and that person's nearest boss. Secondly, what you call quackery is speech like Thucydides' "History of the Peloponnesian War" which regularly fills in what happened on the battlefield with Athena dropping out of the sky and taking some action, or some other god doing something else. That does not make Thucydides less of a general or less of a historian. It makes him a describer of the abstract processes which cause outcomes. I don't know specifically about all Stella's claim's, but her points about demons aren't a demerit. And I would trust a quack, because individual doctor quacks armed with data and their hypothesis tests were saying ventilators were causing deaths instead of helping people. And that finally came to be accepted in some quarters by those who still practice adherence to data. In our nation at present, it is the quacks with the hpothesis tests and the non-quacks doing what the nearest boss and that boss's boss said. I stand by my decision to trust a 'quack' with a pilie of data such as a study, and hypothesis tests. They are doing science. The others are doing politics. If a doctor can't look at a study and tell you why it's false, why are they are a doctor? Scientists can peer review each other. And if the doctor can't tell you why that study is wrong, why are the somehow smarter than you saying to ignore it? It's shameful that our society now considers those doing actual science with reams of data and hpothesis tests to be the quacks until enough people have died and enough insurer-funded evidence-articles made it through to the the nearest bosses desk.

Dr. Strangelove

https://greatgameindia.com/belgium-who-investigation-coronavirus/

From Belgium regarding scam-demic

Koheleth

greatgameindia? hahahahahaha!

Scam-demic? hahahahahaha! What an idiot.

“This is more deadly," (than even the strenuous flus) Trump said. “This is five per — you know, this is 5 percent versus 1 percent and less than 1 percent, you know. So, this is deadly stuff.”

Econobot

I'm suggesting that I'd rather be treated by a Kenya-educated doctor who either uses medical studies (like the ones at https://c19study.com/) or who sacrifices live chickens and really believes in it, as opposed to American parrots beholden to the governor.

Enough Already

That NY and New Jersey (plus other dem states) had high death rates in nursing homes after their democrat governors sent recovering COVID 19 patients there to recover is common knowledge and not disputable. Perhaps you need to turn off CNN where Chris Cuomo runs cover for his brother, the governor of NY.

Econobot

those long paragraphs of mine intending to say: too much regulatory burden and dicates hinder effective science and this problem is highly visible in medicine.

Dr. Strangelove

You're a dog faced lying pony soldier!

Dr. Strangelove

You're a dog faced lying pony soldier!

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